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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/11/derbyshire-interview-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely doubt he will get into any more trouble than he (probably) daily causes for himself ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely doubt he will get into any more trouble than he (probably) daily causes for himself ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/11/derbyshire-interview-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazingly, Derb managed to express the very same thoughts that many of us have had, yet were too afraid to express them out of fear of social reprisal.  I certainly hope Derb won&#039;t get into any trouble over the things he said here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazingly, Derb managed to express the very same thoughts that many of us have had, yet were too afraid to express them out of fear of social reprisal.  I certainly hope Derb won&#8217;t get into any trouble over the things he said here.</p>
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		<title>By: JPI</title>
		<link>http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/11/derbyshire-interview-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>JPI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2004 16:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Derbyshire is quite sensible.  It appears that Derbyshire is quite sensible.  Different races are indeed different and homosexuality is indeed a net social negative.

Anyone who seriously questions this has not traveled very much, and betrays a particular type of ideology based on what they think things should be instead of the world as it actually is.  A lot of these nonsensical equality ideas are from very naive urban dwellers who in fact do not get out much, and are very likely to hang out with those who are deracinated â€“ cut off from their roots â€“ and have no particular sexual morality.  Sexual immorality naturally leads to egalitarian ideas about race, and homosexuality, and thus usually serious anti-racists are usually people who have had numerous sexual partners in their lives and are singed in their minds with the effects thereof.  Chaos is private life usually leads to this type of nonsensical thinking.  An orderly life produces much more sensible thinking than ideological equality among race or any other quirky ideas.

Sorry guys.  Derb disturbs, but Derb cannot be seriously disputed overall.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Derbyshire is quite sensible.  It appears that Derbyshire is quite sensible.  Different races are indeed different and homosexuality is indeed a net social negative.</p>
<p>Anyone who seriously questions this has not traveled very much, and betrays a particular type of ideology based on what they think things should be instead of the world as it actually is.  A lot of these nonsensical equality ideas are from very naive urban dwellers who in fact do not get out much, and are very likely to hang out with those who are deracinated â€“ cut off from their roots â€“ and have no particular sexual morality.  Sexual immorality naturally leads to egalitarian ideas about race, and homosexuality, and thus usually serious anti-racists are usually people who have had numerous sexual partners in their lives and are singed in their minds with the effects thereof.  Chaos is private life usually leads to this type of nonsensical thinking.  An orderly life produces much more sensible thinking than ideological equality among race or any other quirky ideas.</p>
<p>Sorry guys.  Derb disturbs, but Derb cannot be seriously disputed overall.</p>
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		<title>By: johnsbolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnsbolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, what racism means is  believing that ideas are transmitted genetically , yet in a racial pattern. It doesn&#039;t mean believing in racial differences or that  races exist. There could be important racial differences in disease-resistance, as is known to be true in some cases. There could be an overall pattern of racial difference as between tropical and other groups in terms of the specialization of their immune systems&#039; adaptations to climate zones. Yet, if we pretend that significant racial differences can&#039;t exist,  important knowledge for medicine and other subjects may remain hidden, perhaps even sacrificing millions of lives,  so that some corrupted scholars and officials can  manipulate their images.  Or, if not for that reason alone, then for a worse one; that power might be gained by setting groups into conflict, as is argued further at the name/site below...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, what racism means is  believing that ideas are transmitted genetically , yet in a racial pattern. It doesn&#8217;t mean believing in racial differences or that  races exist. There could be important racial differences in disease-resistance, as is known to be true in some cases. There could be an overall pattern of racial difference as between tropical and other groups in terms of the specialization of their immune systems&#8217; adaptations to climate zones. Yet, if we pretend that significant racial differences can&#8217;t exist,  important knowledge for medicine and other subjects may remain hidden, perhaps even sacrificing millions of lives,  so that some corrupted scholars and officials can  manipulate their images.  Or, if not for that reason alone, then for a worse one; that power might be gained by setting groups into conflict, as is argued further at the name/site below&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homosexuality is not anti social just different and many homosexuals have stable relationships. Also science has shown there is nothing negative about homosexuality either then the resulting bigotry that homosexuals face. You are a smart man but i feel in this article you are using your intellect to defend an irrational opinion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homosexuality is not anti social just different and many homosexuals have stable relationships. Also science has shown there is nothing negative about homosexuality either then the resulting bigotry that homosexuals face. You are a smart man but i feel in this article you are using your intellect to defend an irrational opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Abiola Lapite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abiola Lapite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So I believe race is a real thing, that races differ--statistically--in important ways, and that private racial discrimination is not immoral, and certainly should not be illegal.&quot;

I have one thing to say to this: knowing that &quot;races differ--statistically&quot; and knowing that these differences are innate are two very different things; if the differences are due entirely to, say, past racial discrimination, then people like Derbyshire, who see nothing immoral in &quot;private racial discrimination&quot;, only serve to perpetuate the very differences they use to justify discriminating. Most convenient - if one happens to be on the side doing the discriminating, which Derbyshire happens to be. The potential victims might be forgiven for feeling differently.

John Derbyshire claims to have a mathematics degree from UCL, yet I fail to see that mathematical sophistication in evidence whenever he gets around to floating one of the quack theories hatched up by Murray and Herrnstein or one of his buddies at the euphemistically named &quot;Human Bio-Diversity Institute.&quot; The statistical difficulties involved in teasing apart the influence of culture and genetics are immense, particularly when we&#039;re trying to do so across groups of widely varying cultures and environments, and if Derbyshire ignores these difficulties to champion provocative armchair theories that are unsupported by little in the way of rigorous evidence, he has no right to complain if he is publicly lambasted for so doing. Freedom of speech does not and cannot mean freedom from criticism, and if John Derbyshire is free to indulge the pseudo-scientific fancies of his imagination at the expense of blacks and gays, the rest of the world is free (and right) to call him a bigot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I believe race is a real thing, that races differ&#8211;statistically&#8211;in important ways, and that private racial discrimination is not immoral, and certainly should not be illegal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have one thing to say to this: knowing that &#8220;races differ&#8211;statistically&#8221; and knowing that these differences are innate are two very different things; if the differences are due entirely to, say, past racial discrimination, then people like Derbyshire, who see nothing immoral in &#8220;private racial discrimination&#8221;, only serve to perpetuate the very differences they use to justify discriminating. Most convenient &#8211; if one happens to be on the side doing the discriminating, which Derbyshire happens to be. The potential victims might be forgiven for feeling differently.</p>
<p>John Derbyshire claims to have a mathematics degree from UCL, yet I fail to see that mathematical sophistication in evidence whenever he gets around to floating one of the quack theories hatched up by Murray and Herrnstein or one of his buddies at the euphemistically named &#8220;Human Bio-Diversity Institute.&#8221; The statistical difficulties involved in teasing apart the influence of culture and genetics are immense, particularly when we&#8217;re trying to do so across groups of widely varying cultures and environments, and if Derbyshire ignores these difficulties to champion provocative armchair theories that are unsupported by little in the way of rigorous evidence, he has no right to complain if he is publicly lambasted for so doing. Freedom of speech does not and cannot mean freedom from criticism, and if John Derbyshire is free to indulge the pseudo-scientific fancies of his imagination at the expense of blacks and gays, the rest of the world is free (and right) to call him a bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: A Nickel's Worth of Free Advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Nickel's Worth of Free Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Winter Wonder Land&lt;/strong&gt;

Just got back from Denison University where we heard John Derbyshire speak about his book Prime Obsession (my review here,
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<p>Just got back from Denison University where we heard John Derbyshire speak about his book Prime Obsession (my review here,</p>
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		<title>By: The Rattler</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rattler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Derbyshire Clarification&lt;/strong&gt;

John Derbyshire has provided clarification regarding his description of his feelings about homosexuality and race during his interview with Kevin Holtsberry. My original criticism is here, and despite (or perhaps because of) his clarification, I think ...
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<p>John Derbyshire has provided clarification regarding his description of his feelings about homosexuality and race during his interview with Kevin Holtsberry. My original criticism is here, and despite (or perhaps because of) his clarification, I think &#8230;</p>
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