Comments on: Requisite Dale Peck Links http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/ seemingly random thoughts on books Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:27:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: quasimod http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/comment-page-1/#comment-183 quasimod Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:26:29 +0000 http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/#comment-183 Someone wealthy enough to "live abroad", and self-absorbed to the extent that he actually thinks it would be some type of meaningful protest, is both absurd and laughable. "I have contemplated renouncing my citizenship..." --Dale Peck Not likely. I don't believe that many elitists have the courage to stand by their convictions. As long as they are still citizens, they are just on vacation. Don't simply ask where they plan to go, ask them if they plan to renounce their citizenship. The idea of leaving a democracy because they can't dictate it's policy seems to occur frequently to people who just don't understand, or even like, democracy. That is what it really boils down to. Good riddance. ~quasi . Someone wealthy enough to “live abroad”, and self-absorbed to the extent that he actually thinks it would be some type of meaningful protest, is both absurd and laughable.

“I have contemplated renouncing my citizenship…” –Dale Peck

Not likely. I don’t believe that many elitists have the courage to stand by their convictions. As long as they are still citizens, they are just on vacation. Don’t simply ask where they plan to go, ask them if they plan to renounce their citizenship. The idea of leaving a democracy because they can’t dictate it’s policy seems to occur frequently to people who just don’t understand, or even like, democracy. That is what it really boils down to.

Good riddance.

~quasi
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]]> By: GM http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/comment-page-1/#comment-182 GM Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:02:15 +0000 http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/#comment-182 John Ward is worried that France has no habea corpus? The US might have it, but it's becoming more and more of a legal fiction. Bush, "such a success at being President," presides over a government that is holding American citizens prisoner without charging them, without giving them access to an attorney, without allowing them to confront their accusers, without allowing them a jury trial. These prisoners have no habeas corpus rights. If Ward examined the Bill of Rights, he might see that these are all important rights, ones that all of us, even those accused of infamous crimes, are entitled to have. Maybe Bush is making the US more like France, and that cannot be a good thing. John Ward is worried that France has no habea corpus? The US might have it, but it’s becoming more and more of a legal fiction. Bush, “such a success at being President,” presides over a government that is holding American citizens prisoner without charging them, without giving them access to an attorney, without allowing them to confront their accusers, without allowing them a jury trial. These prisoners have no habeas corpus rights. If Ward examined the Bill of Rights, he might see that these are all important rights, ones that all of us, even those accused of infamous crimes, are entitled to have. Maybe Bush is making the US more like France, and that cannot be a good thing.

]]> By: John Ward http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/comment-page-1/#comment-181 John Ward Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:18:04 +0000 http://collectedmiscellany.com/2003/12/requisite-dale-peck-links/#comment-181 When I hear someone say they might leave the country because of Bush I'm always curious to know where they plan to go. France, to be sure, is the popular destination. Don’t accept the invariable "Anywhere but here" answer. No matter where they plan to go, however, the country in question is bound to have its own set of problems. France has its Algiers, after all. And that’s just for starters. After all, that there’s no habeas corpus in France is, to me, quite “repulsive.” And very scary. I’m tempted to say that what it comes down to is that this poor guy thinks the grass is greener on the other side, but, let’s face it, he simply hates Bush because Bush is a Republican. What makes it worse is that Bush is such a success at being President. It’s a sort of temper tantrum. Peck’s not getting his way. Really, to renounce his citizenship because he finds Bush’s “foreign policy so incredibly repulsive”? Come on. When I hear someone say they might leave the country because of Bush I’m always curious to know where they plan to go. France, to be sure, is the popular destination. Don’t accept the invariable “Anywhere but here” answer.
No matter where they plan to go, however, the country in question is bound to have its own set of problems. France has its Algiers, after all. And that’s just for starters. After all, that there’s no habeas corpus in France is, to me, quite “repulsive.” And very scary.
I’m tempted to say that what it comes down to is that this poor guy thinks the grass is greener on the other side, but, let’s face it, he simply hates Bush because Bush is a Republican. What makes it worse is that Bush is such a success at being President. It’s a sort of temper tantrum. Peck’s not getting his way.
Really, to renounce his citizenship because he finds Bush’s “foreign policy so incredibly repulsive”? Come on.

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